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    Quote Originally Posted by 7oddisdead View Post
    it seems highly unlikely that Randy could know/should know he was being followed. So its probly the case.

    keep in mind ink could recognize/use the keypad. I'm pretty sure random cameras in boxes are still random cameras....in boxes...its not THAT far from possible.

    who the hell knows, hopefully we find out in about 10 hours.
    It reminds me of the comment that Lizzy made about Ink never turning to face the cameras like he knew he was being watched when he was in the Tower's lobby. (Interestingly enough, it also seemed like Snatch & Latch were casing the lobby too.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor View Post
    They seem stronger and faster in general, and the special ones have greater abilities. I almost forgot about this in light of the strength of the inklings.

    Randy is shown to have heightened strength and speed.
    Which is also the reason I think he got turned by a Little one. We know they were around at that time since Angel and Riley hear one at the arena while hiding in the pile of bodies. That'd probably explain why he's also still intelligent. It still doesn't explain how the Little ones came to be, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor View Post
    It reminds me of the comment that Lizzy made about Ink never turning to face the cameras like he knew he was being watched when he was in the Tower's lobby. (Interestingly enough, it also seemed like Snatch & Latch were casing the lobby too.)

    8 more hours.
    I think that Ink and Randy, or Randy alone if they are not a team, had many months to observe Team Human and what they are doing. And if it's CJ's planning, then it's probably got a pretty regular pattern of which days and which cameras are handled. So, assuming we have some smarts in some of dem zombie heads, it isn't to far afield to think Randy set something up and was waiting for them to hit that area for cameras.

    Listening to the episode yet again, I think the truck with Jay at the helm gets attacked at the same time that Michael is trying to chase Randy and Puck is fighting of some zombies too. Seems to much for coincidence for me. Although I guess it could be plausible that Randy had a group of regulars that were "his" and serendipity (and some work from the author) put Michael and co at the very right place at the very right time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7oddisdead View Post
    it seems highly unlikely that Randy could know/should know he was being followed. So its probly the case.

    keep in mind ink could recognize/use the keypad. I'm pretty sure random cameras in boxes are still random cameras....in boxes...its not THAT far from possible.

    who the hell knows, hopefully we find out in about 10 hours.
    How does Michael know to stop at that alley? Fifteen minutes is a hell of a head start in an urban maze. Michael seems to smell the funk a lot better than Puck. There does seem to be a difference between biters 1.0 and 2.0. Puck has had limited "exposure" to biters 1.0

    Ink: strange. He had trouble with the keypad in season 1. Seems to be a cognitive function and dexterity. In season 2, he catches an arrow, big upgrade. In Season 3, he opens the gate to the colony and I bet that it is much more complicated than a cheezy number pad. Again, a significant upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbubba View Post
    Listening to the episode yet again, I think the truck with Jay at the helm gets attacked at the same time that Michael is trying to chase Randy and Puck is fighting of some zombies too. Seems to much for coincidence for me. Although I guess it could be plausible that Randy had a group of regulars that were "his" and serendipity (and some work from the author) put Michael and co at the very right place at the very right time...

    5 more hours.
    I don't think the truck was attacked. It sounds like Randy appeared from the ally and the crew fired at him. Someone tells Micheal that 'he went that way' and he was moving really fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor View Post
    I don't think the truck was attacked. It sounds like Randy appeared from the ally and the crew fired at him. Someone tells Micheal that 'he went that way' and he was moving really fast.
    I thought I heard the M-2 firing and the guys in the truck yelling "Contact!" as Michael was coming back around. Maybe they were firing at Randy as he whizzed by... Not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grognaurd View Post
    How does Michael know to stop at that alley? Fifteen minutes is a hell of a head start in an urban maze. Michael seems to smell the funk a lot better than Puck. There does seem to be a difference between biters 1.0 and 2.0. Puck has had limited "exposure" to biters 1.0

    Ink: strange. He had trouble with the keypad in season 1. Seems to be a cognitive function and dexterity. In season 2, he catches an arrow, big upgrade. In Season 3, he opens the gate to the colony and I bet that it is much more complicated than a cheezy number pad. Again, a significant upgrade.
    This is assuming that those are all the same individual. Perhaps they are 2 or more very similar beings with different abilities. The Little Ones were only differentiated by the characters thanks to the numbers (well, except to old One Arm of course). We assume they all had identical abilities (physical or mental) but we don't really know.

    Kc has been playing this one close to the vest and has, IIRC, explicitly avoided identifying Pinstripe suit guy in the tower, rooftop watcher guy from the ambush in the rain, Dunbar attacker guy, Arena guy, Hospital arrow catcher guy, and Colony gate opening guy as being one in the same. And the several characters that have seen him have used different descriptions of him with some common references.

    We the listeners and theorizers have put them all into the same persona. But who knows.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbubba View Post
    This is assuming that those are all the same individual. Perhaps they are 2 or more very similar beings with different abilities. The Little Ones were only differentiated by the characters thanks to the numbers (well, except to old One Arm of course). We assume they all had identical abilities (physical or mental) but we don't really know.

    Kc has been playing this one close to the vest and has, IIRC, explicitly avoided identifying Pinstripe suit guy in the tower, rooftop watcher guy from the ambush in the rain, Dunbar attacker guy, Arena guy, Hospital arrow catcher guy, and Colony gate opening guy as being one in the same. And the several characters that have seen him have used different descriptions of him with some common references.

    We the listeners and theorizers have put them all into the same persona. But who knows.....
    Well, even the characters themselves seem to think of him as one and the same, at least it sounds like that at the end of S3.
    Besides, when he opens the gate Saul spots him and refers to him as something like "the one in the pinstribed suit with the markings on his face"... Could this be Kc's way of telling us that TOWTM and the fucker in the suit are the same person since he seem to mix two of his names here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    Well, even the characters themselves seem to think of him as one and the same, at least it sounds like that at the end of S3.
    Besides, when he opens the gate Saul spots him and refers to him as something like "the one in the pinstribed suit with the markings on his face"... Could this be Kc's way of telling us that TOWTM and the fucker in the suit are the same person since he seem to mix two of his names here?
    It's definitely a possibility that this is all one individual and that's Kc saying it. But it's still a vague area. I feel like the pinstriped suit guy that was in the Tower seemed different from the guy who attacked Dunbar and the guy in the Hospital. Almost like the Tower guy was an early attempt at "making" a special zombie that has mental capabilities beyond the other specials of the time (i.e., behemoths, runners, and jumpers).
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    When Michael recalls the incident involving Tanya and Randy, he is quoted as this:

    "They were massed together and moved as one, in a way we had never seen before. In the lead of all of them, prominent amongst the rest, was one dragging something behind him, protecting it from others getting close."

    that last bit "protecting it from others getting close" sounds like Randy was acting as an Alpha of a pack. The fact that he didn't turn her could be several-fold.
    1.) she was already bitten
    2.) the zombies don't always turn everyone they capture
    3.) he was ''preserving" her for something else
    but what we do know is that Randy was in charge of this "Massed togther" group, unlike anything the Tower members had ever seen before.

    so my conclusion is that Randy is either a leader (General/Commander) for TOWTM or is in charge of his own faction. this occurance with Tanya solidifies that he is in charge of SOME zeds.
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