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    I think I have it guys; A good "Zombie" Plague origin theory.

    (Hey, nikvoodoo, as verbose as I tend to be and I am about to get, I'm horrible at properly titling. So feel free to re-title this appropriately.)

    Alright everyone, I have been going down the Wikipedia rabbit hole off and on for the past week or so and spent the better part of the day today putting this together and I think I've nailed it. A decent theory of the underlying cause and how it worked.

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    Hold on to your hats everyone, I'm about to get overly sciency up in here!

    The only good way for me to get this out of my head effectively is to do so chronologically and start from the beginning. So lets get started.


    (When I said beginning, I wasn't BS'ing. Here's a more comprehensive timeline.)

    From the Hadean article, which echoes pretty much everything I had previously learned about the formation of the earth:
    It is unlikely that life could have formed and established itself in the extreme, volatile conditions of the Hadean. If life had begun to form at this time, it most likely would have been destroyed several times, being forced to start over again. It is probable, however, that the building blocks necessary for life as humans know it were formed at some point during this time. Life would be granted a true start in the succeeding Archean Eon, after conditions on Earth began to stabilize.
    No sense in retyping it, I'll quote it instead. It says everything I wanted to. However, one theoretical vector worth mentioning is Panspermia with Extremophiles. Bombardment might have brought life to Earth on stellar debris or, Earth might have been a source of life in that the bombardment might have taken Hadean or Archean Proto-life with it on ejecta thrown into space... (I'll be coming back to that later.)

    After the Archean Eon was the

    Now, this is a a bit of an oversimplification, but for the majority of the Archean and Proterozoic Eons, life was simple... single celled life that sometimes organized into colonies. For 3.5 Billion years that is all that life did. Be Boring. Then something changed. What?


    But why the sudden explosion and diversification of life? Was there something to it? I posit that there was something holding it back. The Zombie Plague. Walk the dog with me here and I'll explain. (Bear with me, I might get a bit disjointed as I jump around and start getting into conjecture.)

    Throughout the history of the Earth there have been Extinction Level Events. The chart at that link shows the pattern of ELE since the Cambrian explosion, but what is to say that they weren't happening before then too? They probably were, we just have no fossil record of them.

    From the Bacteria Page:
    The ancestors of modern bacteria were single-celled microorganisms that were the first forms of life to appear on Earth, about 4 billion years ago. For about 3 billion years, all organisms were microscopic, and bacteria and archaea were the dominant forms of life.
    Despite the simplicity of the life present, I'm sure it was diverse, but not homogeneous. It is likely that certain species of bacteria were specific to certain biomes then, as they are now.

    I further conjecture that the "Zombie" Plague is a bacteria, or a bacteria like organism and an Extremophile. As we know it is hostile to other forms of life... Keeping other forms of life "in check," periodically killing off life in ELE's as their proliferation ebbed and flowed with time. Therefore it was at some point removed from the Earth's surface in order to allow the Cambrian Explosion to occur.

    How would this be possible without its eradication? I have previously mentioned Sequestration, and I think I have figured out how.


    The Farallon plate was one of the many tectonic plates that were present when Pangaea broke up during the Jurassic. I say was, because it is gone. The Pacific plate pushed it into North America and it subducted. The funny thing is that it is still kinda there, breaking up as it floats about in the Mantle under North America..

    I therefor suggest that the biome that the "Zombie Plague Bacteria" was present in was on a plate that subducted "shortly" before the Cambrian Explosion. The sequestration of the plague allowed the explosion to take place. That plate broke up into large chunks and through the process of Mantle Convection, those chunks spread across the globe, under the surface of the tectonic plates, carrying with them pockets of viable ZPB Extremophiles. There, for over a half a Billion years, the E-ZPB waited just below the surface. At vents, mid-ocean ridges, volcanoes and fault lines, this debris accumulated until it was somehow released, releasing E-ZPB back into the world.

    I will admit though, one of the main places this theory falls down is how/why was the release nearly simultaneous at the global level?


    As an interesting aside, I mentioned that Earth could have been a source for Panspermia... It has been suggested that the Zombie Plague killed the dinosaurs. The current belief is that the Chicxulub Crater Impact 65 million Y/O was what did them in with the K-Pg extinction event... However, there is some preliminary evidence that something was already killing them off. Some sort of disease. Also, there is increasing evidence that the ELE wasn't caused by a singular event, that it was the culmination of multiple impacts. One or more of these may have been ejecta from an Hadean/Archean impact and brought E-ZPB back to Earth or released it from below the surface...


    (Alright, I'm done. I'm going cross-eyed and getting a headache still looking at this.)
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    If that's not it, it's a really good idea for another story.
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    This is very similar to my "District 9 theory" http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...2560#post52560

    I think that you just took my theory and replaced the phase "mutation of spaceship genetic fuel" with "Extremophile". But since you quoted the so called "scientific community" to back up your theory I will give you rep

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    Now that's what I call going down the rabbit hole! Amazing work Red Shirt!

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    Fantastic theory Red Shirt. I think it's time Osiris passed the Fox Mulder avatar on to you!

    I would propose an X-Files type conspiracy to explain the simultaneous worldwide release of the "extremophile". Some secret cabal of scientists and politicians who were out to end human life, or end the dominance of the US and Pacific Rim.
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    It's an interesting theory, though not one that I subscribe to. I see no need to try and refute it, because it shows a great deal of thought (and a lot of links to stuff). I will agree that the source of the "plague" is below. As for what it might be, I couldn't even wager a guess right now. This is hardly X enough to be worth of the Mulder Moniker.
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    Brilliant theory in fitting with the reality of WA. My adaption would be that possibly it didn't release simultaneous. It may have released from one point and then spread (between individuals like a cold). If it has a long incubation period and is highly infectious previous to the final "zombie" stage. Most likely it wouldn't be adapted to deal with modern mammal immune systems pre-release. That would be take a while. Possibly due to mutations it lost the ability to pass by particle matter (mucus from sneezing etc) but gained some ability to alter the operation of the body. Still doesn't quite explain why the infection breaks out in present form almost simultaneously. Unless the "Final" version (which would only be transferable by saliva/ blood) evolved from the initial version several times (see the eye etc) and had an approximate number of mutations needed to reach maturity?

    I fear I haven't explained my addition very eloquently but congrats on a pretty cool theory.

    I'm still sure there's a man made aspect. though. Ink is to smart. And to obviously was the source of the little ones.
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    I like the idea of the original outbreak being something "natural" (as opposed to aliens or evil scientists). The key twist being, as Solanine said, TOWTM seizing the opportunity to be Eeeeevil and make all the variations for his own nefarious purposes.

    Good work, Red Shirt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbubba View Post
    I like the idea of the original outbreak being something "natural" (as opposed to aliens or evil scientists). The key twist being, as Solanine said, TOWTM seizing the opportunity to be Eeeeevil and make all the variations for his own nefarious purposes.

    Good work, Red Shirt!
    Could be that It was natural, omnipresent and evil/misguided scientists adapted it. Ink could possibly be one of them who tried to vaccinate himself and things went WrOnG.
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