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    Hm, I think there is a shooting range for large caliber firearms in my home village. It is all in one building: a bowling center, a shooting range - and a pub. What a combination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YetAnotherBloodyCheek View Post
    Hm, I think there is a shooting range for large caliber firearms in my home village. It is all in one building: a bowling center, a shooting range - and a pub. What a combination.
    It really is. And the range for the large guns => for those club-members who have the allowance for bigger guns - so not unlikely guys who are hunters.
    And the combination is excellent.
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    I guess its time to start making my own ammunition...so the Government can't control how much I can buy.

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    alcohol, tobaco, and firearms should be a covenience store, not a government agency. in fact, i may start a convenience store on that principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reaper239 View Post
    alcohol, tobaco, and firearms should be a covenience store, not a government agency. in fact, i may start a convenience store on that principle.
    I'll be your best customer! I really don't see the purpose of that agency. None of those items are illegal, according to the Constitution, so why does the ATF exist?

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    It was a close one today in Illinois...they almost banned pretty much all semi-automatic weapons...last minute they decided to hold off on it thankfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordinary12 View Post
    I'll be your best customer! I really don't see the purpose of that agency. None of those items are illegal, according to the Constitution, so why does the ATF exist?
    to take your money, use it to buy guns, and then send those guns south of the border to mexican drug cartels. hey ATF, where's my AK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reaper239 View Post
    alcohol, tobaco, and firearms should be a covenience store, not a government agency. in fact, i may start a convenience store on that principle.
    You forgot the explosives, it's ATFE now. That's the most funnest one. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by reaper239 View Post
    to take your money, use it to buy guns, and then send those guns south of the border to mexican drug cartels. hey ATF, where's my AK?
    Yep. I want to know where my AK is too. And while they're at it, where's my free healthcare and welfare checks that Saint Obama promised?
    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

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    not really trying to kick off this debate again, but i found this video on youtube which shows some interesting data.


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    Thanks, reaper239.

    A few years ago we had some mass-shootings here in Germany. And the media ran wild: all the mass-murder-kids also played first-person-shooter-games on the web. Ever snce I keep saying this:
    "While the d-bag sits in front of his 'puter and frantically hits the mouse-button in order to shoot into someone else's avatar's face, he neither practices firing real arms in a range or at moving real targets nor does he shoot real people in their faces. There is no reason to generalize the few gone wild and make them the rule. Just consider how many people play first-person-shooters. If it was true what some hot media-chick says, then mass-murders would live in any street on the world and we would have mass-murders and assassinations on a daily basis for breakfast. The world would be totally different."

    And I think this is the same discussion we have here. I mean, isn't it funny to have some mad guy in Aurora again, just half a year after the cinema-shooting? And yet, how many people live in the US of A? This is a weird discussion. And I wonder what's the purpose behind it ...

    Well, anyway. Thanks for sharing. This video is a very good example how easily opinions are created with the help of "selective recognition" and "angeld argumentation".

    All the best!
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