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    Quote Originally Posted by nikvoodoo View Post
    It wasn't a faulty repair until his repair failed mid flight. How were we supposed to know the repair was faulty until it failed? It worked well enough to get them about a half hour from (presumably) ft Irwin.
    I was trying to say that it was never implied or considered that Datu's repair could be faulty, or that the possibility of a faulty repair would be the reason for them to land, which I considered odd for a group of fans that over(?)-analyse this show to the Nth degree

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    good observation. also looking at it from the perspective of the towers collapse should give some indication of the timeline as well.

    *strokes beard*.....couple other things.

    big ones dont bleed? just going from memory here, but have we ever heard of blood on a behemoth before? regardless of where(physically) it was shot...would it not be expected that a bullet of that caliber would make a visable spray?

    saul and victor are not buddies....excellent...shades of angel/kalani dynamic in full effect. but i see this lil bro-down playing out differently than previous.... bro-down. entertaining non the less!

    no sense in jumping on datu just yet about shoddy repairs. one cant expect a simple maintenance man to competantly repair a complex hydraulic system. the more important thing for us to search out right now is a rough guess-timate of where this field they set/are setting the bird down at is....doesn't sound to overly safe imho..(somewhere outside ft irwin along the 15)

    new zombie intern...steven!

    more to come..

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    WOO!!!!

    Okay, so I was totally happy to hear from Saul and Victor. They were the two I wanted to hear from the most since Chapter 24.

    It'll be interesting to hear what happens to Michael's group. I assume they're in the middle of nowhere right now. With Riley still unconscious, Michael (and maybe Kelly) is really the only one who can protect the group should a couple of random zombies find them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cupcakezombie View Post
    One thing I noticed when Saul and Victor were walking around was all of the coughing and with limited visibility from the dust as the building had collapsed, but the Mallers looking around at the end of chapter 24 seemed to have good visibility and no problems breathing. This might give us some indication of the timeline between the two sections.

    And YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Interesting. I was wondering about that, but that could explain it. Good thinking cupcake!

    And isn't anyone else impressed how far the JANITOR'S repair lasted considering he was only going to school for engineering for a few months/years. If anything it takes a lot longer then a few classes to repair some helicopter hydraulic systems. I would imagine that in the real world, a bullet hole in a hydraulic line would need a full on replacement. But yeah, Datu and Kalani could only do so much to repair it considering the equipment and the timeline they had.

    Hmm in hindsight, maybe Kalani should have used the repaired helicopter and crashed that one?
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    So is it safe to say the 30-40 seconds of nothing but gunfire in the distance are the Mallers exiting stage left or what?

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    So nice to have my life back on track again.

    I really enjoyed the episode. There is plenty to re-listen to and discuss. I've noticed the artwork changed! Unless of course we are going to get a piece of artwork for the entire chapter and then a different one for the individual parts. One shows a hummer, one shows a person walking through some rubble, which could be the fallen tower.

    I have to give props to cupcakezombie for mentioning the time difference deduced by the ability see, and breathe correctly. It definitely could be giving us an indication of time. Saul and Victor definitely didn't engage any human hostiles in their escape so this could be quite plausible in my eyes.

    Poor Datu, why do so many people dislike him? He plays the big heart, somewhat frail character. In my eyes he is a good balance between all the testosterone and bravery we normally see. It does seem as though his repairs didn't last very long, and that wouldn't surprise me. Hydraulics are insanely high pressure systems and to think that he managed to fix the bird with just some stuff he had in his tool box? Pretty amazing they even made it that far.

    I was super stoked to hear the Chopper would not be making it all that way to Fort Irwin after all was said and done. Perhaps the others will be able to meet up with them somehow. Gotta give props to KC for throwing out so many new story dynamics. Possible survivors from the tower collapse, possible prisoners taken by the Mallers, possible conflict between Durai and Scratch and the remaining Maller crew, the separation between Saul/Victor and the Chopper crew... WOW! Gonna be an amazing season.

    All I ask/beg is that at some point Michael tells us how he escaped the damn water facility!

    Bravo!

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    now i need to wait to hear from burt...

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    Great, WA is back!

    The new season start is up to the expectations, congratulations to the whole team. After the rollercoaster of the last season finale, anything less would have been dissapointing, that time I went from annoyance and anger to shock and sadness at the hostage exchange, then from an uneasy frustration when the Tower was surrounded to exhilaration when the 1st chopper arrived, (I was driving to work and I recognized the sound since Bricks was asking about it and actually started humming loud the Ride of the Valkyries and pumping my fist in the air and screanming RUN CHARLIE, RUUUN! alone in my car), but then all went to Hell, Kalani went down, the Cavalry arrived, but almost took a rocket, the escaping cars were overrun, the second tanker, Burt fell, Angel was left behind, the Tower collapses... I was almost panting at the end of the chapter!

    Now the story starts at a good pace, Vic and Saul, the new "Odd Couple", are on their own (much to Vic's regret) and again a Behemoth shows up to play Cupid and make'em happy again (taking a .50cal round in the process); And the chopper bunch is about to crashland in the middle of Zombieland, so now we're about to see what are they made of. B.T.W. I honestly was surprised that the chopper lasted that long with a "fileld expedient" repair intended to be treated niiice and slow (but with steep banks, evadig hostile fire, sharp turns arround the tower they are lucky to be in the air), Datu and the late Kalany made a miracle (you try to fix a mere brake line, power steering or auto tranny with duct tape, bubble gum and zip ties to see if you can and how long it lasts, then do it with a hyper complex chopper hydraulic sys. and realize the feat that the author is trying to portray) but the circumstances forced the chopper to take more abuse than it was repaired for and down they went!, let's hope Chicken Li'l was paying atention to "Autorotation 101" in Kalany's Flight School (even tough to me it looked more like a pilot G.E.D. seminar...)

    In the "Fine threading" dept. I see nothing for now, for me its curious how 2 guys like Saul & Vic have opposite views to simple issues, like where to go and why, they both are practical guys but both have only their surprisingly high hopes to back their opinions about what to do in the precarious situation the're in. Oh! and I thought that Saul was helping Vic while leaving the Humvee, not the other way around (Vic had a hurt leg or something, gotta re-listen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestonWisdom View Post
    I was trying to say that it was never implied or considered that Datu's repair could be faulty, or that the possibility of a faulty repair would be the reason for them to land, which I considered odd for a group of fans that over(?)-analyse this show to the Nth degree
    Ah ha! Now I'm picking up what you're puttin' down. True, I don't recall anyone pointing out tha prospect. And considering his track record......we all shoulda gone to that first.
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    Interesting start, I like this Victor/ Saul combo. Saul has been a handful lately, especially when it comes to the topic of Lizzy, and everyone always walks on eggshells around him. Burt wont call him on his shit, because he's the reason lizzy is out there. Michael and Angel are just trying to keep him out of the way and out of trouble, etc. But Victor, hell yeah, he'll just tell Saul to shove it. If Angel actually is dead, I'll be fine just cause Victor is so badass.

    Also no sign of Angel :'( (and Burt n Lizzy). I guess they'll come into play sometime before this chapter ends.

    It looks like there are 3 groups. There's the mauler prisoner group, that's probably Lizzy, Angel and Burt, the latter two i'm guessing survived the tower collapse and were captured. And they'll no doubt merge with Victor/ Saul Group in the near future. Then there's the third group of Michael, Datu, Pegs, Riley and the doc. And i'm sure there'll be a big moment halfway through, or maybe near the end of the season where they all meet up again. Probably back in LA.

    I guess the how long it will take for the two groups to meet up again will depend on how far away from LA the helicopter group was before they went down. They said they were one hour away from the fort Irwin. From LA it takes about 3 hours to get there by car. If you take out traffic, and increase your average speed, the trip will probably take less than two hours by heli. The other thing is, right before they crash landed, Michael says, hey follow that road, that's the I-15. the 15 runs tangent to LA, so my guess is that's where Michael's group is. Then there's where they landed itself, Michael tells Pegs to land on a grassy patch. There aren't many grassy patches in LA. So its a good guess that they're near the LA national forest that borders the edge of LA. It would be an interesting change of terrain.

    So yeah that's everything I got.
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